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[new murli studen] What is "advance party"?


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Advance party - Souls who were BKs and left their bodies to play a special incognito role (while being non-BKs) for establishment of the Golden age. Mama is the head of the advance party. There are usually indications in the bhog message [message brought by trance messengers while offering food after the soul has left the body] that this soul has gone to become part of the advance party.

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Advance Party

1)(SM dated 27.03.08, pg 3 )
“जैसे ड्रामा के एक्टर्स को मालूम होता है हम घर से स्टेज पर पार्ट बजाने आये हैं। वैसे हम आत्मा यह शरीर रूपी चोला लेकर पार्ट बजाती है फिर वापिस जाना है, शरीर छोड़ना पड़ता है। तुम्हें तो खुशी होनी चाहिए, डरना नहीं चाहिए। तुम बहुत कमाई कर रहे हो। शरीर छोड़ने वाले खुद भी समझ सकते हैं हमने कितनी कमाई की है। तुम समझते हो जो शरीर छोड़कर गये हैं उनमें से किसका मर्तबा बड़ा कहें, फलाने बहुत सर्विस करते थे, जाकर दूसरा शरीर लिया। इनएडवांस गये हैं। उनका इतना ही पार्ट था। फिर भी कुछ न कुछ ज्ञान लेने लिए आ जायें, हो सकता है। वारिस तो बन गये ना। किसके साथ हिसाब-किताब चुक्तू करना होगा, वह खलास करने गये। आत्मा में तो ज्ञान के संस्कार हैं ना। संस्कार आत्मा में ही रहते हैं। वह गुम नहीं हो सकते। कहाँ अच्छी जगह सर्विस करते होंगे। नॉलेज के संस्कार ले गये तो कुछ न कुछ जाकर सर्विस करेंगे। ऐसे तो नहीं सब जाते रहेंगे। नहीं। हाँ, इतना जरूर है योग में रहने से आयु बढ़ती है।“

= “Just as the actors of a drama know that we have come from our home to play our part on the stage, similarly we souls take up this costume-like body and play our part; then we have to return (home); we have to leave this body. You should feel happy. You should not be afraid. You are earning a lot of income. Those who leave the body can themselves understand as to what extent they have earned the income. You can understand as to whose post can be said to be high among those who have left their bodies; those particular persons used to do a lot of service; they went and took rebirth. They have gone in advance. They had only that much part. Even then, it can be possible that they may come to obtain knowledge to some extent or the other. They have become heirs, have they not? They might have had karmic accounts with someone to settle; they have gone to settle them. The soul carries sanskars of knowledge, does it not? Sanskars are contained only in the soul. They cannot perish. They might have gone to a nice place and must be doing service. When they have gone with the sanskars of knowledge, they will do service to some extent or the other. It is not as if every soul would continue to deapart. No. Yes, it is certain that one’s age increases by remaining in Yoga.”

The older one of the same murli is

SM 9-3-88(2):- Sharir chodnaa padtaa hai. Ismey toh khushi honaa chaahiye. Darnaa nahin chaahiye. Tum bahut kamaayi kar rahe ho. Sharir chodneyvaalaa khud bhi samajh saktey hain humney kitni kamaayi ki hai. Tum samajhte ho jo sharir chodkar gaye hain, unmey se kiskaa martabaa badaa kahey, phalaanaa bahut service karthay thay. Jaakar doosraa sharir liyaa. Inadvance gaye hain. unkaa itnaa hee part thaa. Phir bhi kuch na kuch gyaan lene liye aa jaaye, ho saktaa hai. Vaaris toh ban gaye na, Kiske saath hisaab kitaab chukt karnaa hogaa. Vah khalaas karne gaye. Atma may toh gyaan ke sanskaar hain na. Sanskaar atma may he rahte hain. Vah gum nahin ho sakthay. Kahaan achchee jagah service karthay honge. Knowledge ke sanskaar le gaye. Toh kuch na kuch jaakar service karenge. Aisey toh nahin sab jaate rahenge. Nahin. Haan itnaa zaroor hai, yog may rahney se aayu badhti hai. - [advance party]




2) SM 14-11-78(3):- Yahaan toh amma marey toh bhi halvaa khaavo, bebi marey toh bhi halvaa khaavo. Royenge, peetenge nahin. Drama par mazbooth rahnaa chaahiye. MAMMA, BABA BHI JAAVENGE, ANANY BACHCHE BHI ADVANCE MAY JAAVENGE. Part toh bajaanaa hee hai. Ismey fikar ki kyaa baath hai? Saakshi hokar hum khel dekhte hain. Avasthaa sadaiv harshith rahni chaahiye. Baba ko bhi kitney khyaalaath aate hain. Law kahtaa hai aavenge zaroor. Aisey nahin ki Mamma, Baba koyi paripoorn ho gaye. Paripoorn avasthaa anth may hogi. Is samay koyi bhi apney ko paripoorn kah na sakey. YAH NUKSAAN HUVAA, KOYI KHITPIT HUYI. AKHBAAR MAY BK KE LIYE HAAHAKAR HOTA. YAH BHI KALP PAHLEY HUVAA THAA. FIKAR KI KYAA BAATH. 100% AVASTHAA ANTH MAY HONI HAI. BAAP KI DIL PAR TAB CHADHENGE JAB RAHAMDIL BANENGE. AAP SAMAAN BANAAVENGE. Insure kiyaa, vah baath alag hai. Vah toh apney liye hee karte ho. Yah toh gyaan ratnon kaa daan auron ko denaa hai. BAAP KO POORI YAAD NA KARENGE TOH VIKARMON KAA BHOJAA JO SIR PAR HAI, VAH KHUL PADEGAA. ROG NIKAL PADEGAA. -64 [advance party, yaad, Mamma, prediction]

= ...... Mamma baba also will go. Very best children also will go in advance. ....
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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I have not read the following by myself, but got from others . It is avyakt message.

Avyakt Sandesh : Jin athmavon ke pas Advance Party ka janam huva hei un athmavon ko thayyari karnney nimith ban_ na hai. Voh variety prakar ki athmaayein hain. Koyi Bhakth aathmayein hein, koyi rajyadhikari lene ke sahayogi athmaye hei aur koyi Dhanvan hei, lekin koyi positionvale nahi hei, lekin positionvalon ke samparkvale hei. Toh IS PRAKAR KE ATHMAVONKE PAAS Advance Party KA JANM HUVA HAI.

Voh log tho apna baal va yuva sambhandh se unhon ko aisa mukh se gnan nahi suna sakenge. lekin APNE VIBRATION aur APNA RAAY KI AUTHORITY dvara. ATHORITY KI BOL AISE HOTHE "JO Maa BAP VA SAMPARKVALE SAMJTHE HEIN INKEE RAAY BAHUTH ACHI HEI" 'Apne Raay ki authoriti se, sneh se, baal chrithr se, apnee jeevan kee dharana kee visheshatha se unhon ko sahayogi bana rahe hein. Voh athmayein Brahmakumari ban seedha gnan nahi denge AUR Yoga NAHI SIKHAYENGE, lekin PRACTICAL DHARANA SE PRABHIVITH KARENGE. sampark me laa sakthe lekin swayam gnan dene ka nimith nahi banenge. Yah bi seva ka bhin bhin roop hei.

Vyse kisi na kisee roope se, sambandh se seva ke sahayog se apaas me milthe bi hein, LEKIN BINA PEHCHAN KE.

= The Advance Party souls have taken birth at such places/people so that they will become nimitt for the preparation. They (the familes where Advance Party souls have taken birth) will be of variety types. Some will be devotee souls, some will be of those who will cooperate in getting kingdom, some will be rich but have no position- but having contact with those who have position. So- Advance Party souls have taken birth at such souls/people.

They will not be able to give knowledge by their power or youth(not clear, mostly means even if they are adult, they will not be able to give knowledge) relation. But, from their vibration and their authority of giving directions. Their words/speech of authority would be such that their parents and those who are their contact/relation would feel their directions as good. By their authority of giving directions, by love, by character of childhood, by the speciality of dharna of their life, they make others cooperative. They will not become BK and give knowledge directly or teach Yoga, but by practical dharna, they will influence. They will bring in contact, but will not give knowledge by themselves. This is also different forms of service.


BTW, by one or other ways, or relations or through service they (the advance party souls) also meet together, but without knowing each other. (that they all had been BKs in their past birth).
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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mbbhat wrote: BTW, by one or other ways, or relations or through service they (the advance party souls) also meet together, but without knowing each other. (that they all had been BKs in their past birth)


If they get to know who they are now and what were they in their previous birth, then the "real beauty" of the drama unfolds :)


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Yes, that is true.

One more point:-

One of the great significances of advance party is or may be- as Shivbaba is fully egoless as well as non violent.......

So- I think- HE will not reveal himself just by the power of knowledge. HE will also get revealed by lowkik people in lowkik way also. That is- like science itself will prove silence in the end, similarly, advance party souls will trigger other lowkik souls to come near us and accept us- [of course- when our stage also becomes right one].

So- all these coincidence is necessary.

If we tell/praise about ourselves, it does not look good. Someone else should say about us. Similarly advance party souls will be such instruments.

So- when we would be ready, advance party also would be ready, science and our devotees also would be ready and even the nature for transformation.

I think Mamma would be revealed at the end in corporeal form - since she has body now, .....we have to wait and see what is going to happen- it is again drama (secret, yet to know many things).
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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5)SM 31-12-76(3):- Jitnaa ho sakey jaldee2 daivee gun dhaaran karney hain. Yahaan se jo sanskaar le jaate hain, toh vo chotepan may hee Maa, baap mitr sambandhiyon aadi ko kheenchenge. Aisey bahut yahaan aavenge. Feel hogaa jaise ko yahaan se knowledge lekar gaye hain. Tumsey unki jaasti preet hogi. Aage chal baba shaayad saakshaatkaar bhee karaavenge. Jo achche2 bachche gaye hain phalaaney jagah janm liyaa hai. Jitnaa2 nazdeek aayenge, jhaad dikhaayee padtey rahenge. Bahut saakshaatkaar hote rahenge. – 87 [advance party, prediction]


= Inculcate divine virtues as early as possible. Those leave by taking sanskaar of here, will attract their parents, relatives from/during the childhood itself. Like this, many will come here. THEIR LOVE WILL BE MORE THAN YOURS. In future, baba may also give visions that such and such children have taken birth at such places. As you (= your effort) come closer, you will see the tree better. You will get lot of visions.

This point indicates those souls will feel as if they have taken knowledge from here. So- will they take knowledge from here once again? If yes, to what extent? If not, then they could have feeling of swa kee bhaavnaa (feeling of mine/ours/family) and just happiness or contentment with BKWSU.

Yet to know.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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6)SM 5-2-89(3):- Punarjanm ko bhee tumney samjhaa hai ki tum kitney janm lete ho. BRAAHMAN DHARM MAY TUM KITNEY JANM LETE HO. KOYI 2-3 JANM BHEE LETE HAIN. Samjho koyi shareer chodte hain., vah sanskaar braahmanpan ke le jaate hain. Toh vah sanskaar brahmanpan ke hone ke kaaran phir bhee braahman kul may hee aa jaayenge. Sachche2 braahman kul may aayenge. -49 [braahman, advance party]


=How many births you take in braahmin religion(as BK)? Some may take 2 to 3 births. For example, if someone leaves body, they take sanskaar of the braahmin. So- due to that sanskaar being in the soul, they will come back to braahmin kul. They come into true braahmin kul.


So- all the Bks who leave body may not go into advance party role. Some will again put effort. But, it is believed that those whose effort had already attained a high level will go into advance party.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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7) AM 5-12-89(With Gujarat Group)- Pg 63 of the book:- Sochney se kuch bhee naheen hotaa, karne se hotaa. Sochthay2 maano usee saamay antim ghadee aa jaaye, toh kyaa hogaa. Bandhan hai, bandhan hai, yahee sochte jaayenge toh kahaan jaayenge. Pinjdey may hee jaayenge. Anth may agar bandhan yaad rahaa, toh garbh jail may jaanaa padegaa aur khushee2 se jaayenge, toh advance party may seva ke liye jaayenge. Isliye kabhee bhee apney se tang na ho. Khush raho. -63 [yaad, advance party]


= At the time of leaving body, if bondage is in your remembrance, you will go into garbh/womb jail. Else, if you die with happiness, you will go into advance party to do service. hence never get upset with self. Always be happy.



8)SM 7-10-85(2):- Tum ho kitney saadhaaran. Aur kyaa bante ho. Vishw kaa maalik. Tumhaaraa kitnaa shrungaar hogaa. Golden spoon in mouth vahaan kaa toh gyaan hee hai. Abhee bhee koyi achche bachche shareer chodte hain toh bahut achche ghar may janm lete hain. Golden spoon in mouth miltaa hai. Inadvance toh jaayenge na koyi ke pass. NIRVIKAARI PASS TOH JANM PAHLEY2 KRISHN KO HEE LENAA HAI. Baaki toh jo bhee jaayenge, vah vikaari pass hee toh janm lenge. Parantu garbh may itnee sajaayein naheen bhogenge. Bade achche ghar may janm lenge. Sajaaye toh kat gayi. Baaki karkey thodee hogi. Itnaa dukh naheen hogaa. Aage chal dekhnaa tumhaarey pass bade ghar ke bachche prince, princess kaise aate hain. Baap tumhaaree kitnee mahimaa karte hain. – [advance, Krishn, prediction]


= How ordinary you are. But what do you become. Emperors of the world. How much would you be decorated. Golden Spoon in the mouth is said to there. Even now, when some good children leave body, will get birth in good homes. They get Golden Spoon in the mouth. They will go inadvance to somewhere, is it not. THE FIRST VICELESS BIRTH WOULD BE THAT OF KRISHNA ONLY. Others whoever leave their body, will get birth at vicious places only. But, in the garbh/womb there would not be much punishment. They get birth at good homes/families. The punishments are cut/burnt. There could be a little. (So), sorrow would not be much. In future, you will see prince, princess of great/royal families coming towards you. How much father praises you.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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9)एडवांस पार्टी का क्या कार्य चल रहा है? आप लोगों के लिए आज सारी फ़ील्ड तैयार कर रहे हैं। उनके परिवार में जाओ, न जाओ; लेकिन जो स्थापना का कार्य होना है, उसके लिए वह निमित्त बनेंगे। कोई पावरफुल स्टेज लेकर निमित्त बनेंगे। ऐसे पावर्स लेंगे जिससे स्थापना के कार्य में मददगार बनेंगे। आजकल आप देखेंगे दिन-प्रतिदिन न्यू ब्लड का रिगार्ड ज़्यादा है। जितना आगे बढ़ेंगे उतना छोटों की बुद्धि काम करेगी, जो कि बड़ों की नहीं। बड़ी आयु की तुलना में फिर भी छोटेपन में सतोप्रधानता रहती है। कुछ न कुछ प्यूरिटी की पावर होने के कारण उनकी बुद्धि जो काम करेगी वह बड़ों की नहीं करेगी। यह चेन्ज होगी। बड़े भी बच्चों की राय को रिगार्ड देंगे। अब भी जो बड़े हैं वह समझते हैं कि हम तो पुराने ज़माने के हैं, यह आजकल के हैं। उनको रिगार्ड न देंगे और उन्हें बड़ा समझ नहीं चलावेंगे तो काम नहीं चलेगा। पहले बच्चों को रोब से चलाते थे। अभी ऐसे नहीं। ..... छोटे ही कमाल कर दिखावेंगे। एडवांस पार्टी का तो अपना कार्य चल रहा है; लेकिन वह भी आपकी स्थिति एडवांस में जाने के लिए रुके हुए हैं। उनका कार्य भी आपके कनेक्शन से चलना है।"[/color] (अ.वा.2.8.73 पृ.151 म, 152 आ.)


"What is the work being done by the Advance Party? They will prepare the field for you all. Whether you go to their family or not, but they will be instrumental for the task of establishment which has to take place. They will become instrumental with a powerful stage. They will gain such powers as to become helpful in the task of establishment. [color=#0000FF]Now a days you see that there's so much respect for the new blood. The more they move forward the intellect of the elders will not work as much as the intellect of the young ones. When compared to the elders there's more purity (satopradhanata) in the childhood. Because of the power of purity their intellect will work more than that of the elders. This change will be noticed. Elders will also give due respect to the advice of the children. Even now, those who are old, think that they belong to the bygone age. These belong to the present generation. If we don't give respect or deal with them as important persons then our work will not proceed. Earlier the children used to be dealt with egoistically. Now it's not so.... The young ones will only do wonders. Advance Party's work is going on but they are also waiting for the advancement of your stage. Their work is also connected with you.


10) 1) AM 12-9-83(2):- [With Didiji]:- Aap log kitney bhee busy raho. Baap toh apnaa kaary karaa hee lete hain. Apney sampoorn aakaar kaa anubhav kiyaa hai? Jaise sakar aakaar ho gaye, aap sabkaa bhee sampoorn aakaaree swaroop hai jo numberwaar harek sakar aakaar ban jaayenge. Aakar ban karke seva karnaa achchaa hai yaa sakar shareer parivartan kar seva karnaa achchaa hai? ADVANCE PARTY TOH SAKAR SHAREER PARIVARTAN KAR SEVAA KAR RAHEE HAI. Lekin koyi2 ka part anth tak sakari aur aakaari roop dwara part chaltaa hai. Aapkaa kyaa part hai? KISKAA ADVANCE PARTY KA PART HAI, KISKAA ANTHAVAAHAK SHAREER DWARA SEVA KA PART HAI. Dono part kaa apnaa2 mahatw hai. FIRST SECOND KI BAATH NAHEEN. Variety part kaa mahatw hai. Advance party kaa part bhee koyi kum naheen hai. Sunaayaa na vah zhor2 se apney plans banaa rahe hain. Vahaan bhee naamigraami hain. Achchaa. -17, 17- [Advance party, yaad, subtle world, vision] -vvimp


= [With Didiji]:- ........ Have you experienced your complete subtle form? Like corporeal (Brahma) became aakaar/subtle, subtle forms of you all also will get formed numberwise. Doing service while being in subtle form/stage, or doing service by transforming (changing) the corporeal body- which is better? Advance party is doing service after getting the corporeal body transformed (changed).
But- a few have part/role (of doing service) through corporeal and subtle forms. What is your part? Some have role of advance party. Some have role of doing service through anthavaahak(subtle stage) body. Both have their own specialties. There is no matter/question of first and second. The speciality is of variety roles. The part of advance party is also not lesser. They also are doing their plans with full force. There are also great souls. Good.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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11) SM 20-4-2017:- अभी नाटक पूरा होता है, जो भी एक्टर्स हैं सब चले जायेंगे, बाकी थोड़े रहेंगे। राम गयो रावण गयो.. बाकी बचेंगे कौन? दोनों तरफ के थोड़े-थोड़े ही बचेंगे, बाकी सब वापिस चले जायेंगे। फिर मकान आदि बनाने वाले, सफाई करने वाले भी बचते हैं। समय चाहिए ना। हम भी चले जायेंगे। तुमको राजाई में जन्म मिलेगा। वो फिर सफाई करते हैं। बाबा ने कहा है, जहाँ जीत वहाँ जन्म। भारत में ही जीत होगी। बाकी वह सब खलास हो जायेंगे। राजायें आदि जो धनवान होंगे, वह बचेंगे, जिनके पास तुम जन्म लेंगे। सारी सृष्टि का फिर तुमको मालिक बनना है।


= “The Play is now coming to an end, and all the actors will RETURN (Home). VERY FEW WILL REMAIN. There is a saying- "RAMA went & Ravan went"... So, then, who will remain? Very few will remain FROM BOTH SIDES, the rest will all RETURN. Then those who build buildings, and those who cleanse everything will ALSO remain. Time is needed for that. We will also RETURN. You will take birth with Sovereigns. Those people will cleanse everything. Baba says: You will take birth where there is Victory. There will be Victory in Bharat alone; all the rest will PERISH. Sovereigns and the others, who are wealthy, will remain, with whom You will take birth. You have THEN to become the Masters of the WHOLE World.” {Ram, ravan, prediction, advance party]
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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