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Regarding Rosary/Mala


Post Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:44 pm

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-RudrMala (mala of ShivBaba)= Mala of Brahma, or Mala of (complete)braahmins. = RamMala = mala of the souls at the end of kalpa when result is being declared (say by Shivbaba).

-RundMala (Vishnu Mala= Vijaya Mala)= Mala of deities= DeepMala = Mala of deities or pure living souls.

-Bhakt mala = Mala of devotees = Mala of Ravan(!), etc.

In Rudrmala, Shiv/Rudr is also present, but in VishnuMala Shiv is not present as he does not come to heaven.

Rudrmala is the ascending mala (returning to paramdham), and VishnuMala is about descending from paramdham. Hence Rudrmala gets formed in a SECOND (since result will be declared in a second or verfy fast), but VishnuMala grows slowly (it represents population in heaven which is slowly growing).

1)RudrMala is of brothers/souls, where as VishnuMala is of brother- sisters(living souls= deities). In other words, in RM only soul is worshiped, but in VM, both soul and body are worshiped. Because the body of braahmins is impure, hence not worship worthy.

2)In RudrMala, head is Shiv- the flower, but in VishnuMala, head is Vishnu, Shiv is absent, since he does not come in heaven.

3)RudrMala is the state of the souls when all become pure and the final result is declared. Hence it gets formed in a second.

4)Whereas Vishnumala gets formed or grows slowly. Because souls descend from Paramdham slowly. VishnuMala represents population in heaven, which grows slowly.

5a)RudrMala is very big when compared to VishnuMala, because all the souls enter into paramdham= All souls become pure at the end. When Shiv comes to world, all the souls would be present.

5b)Where as VishnuMala is small because only few get entry at heaven (only few get pure bodies). When Vishnu is in world, only few souls will be with him. [that is why there is also a murli point- RudrMala kitnee badee hai, uskey aage VishnuMala kitnee chotee hai = How large is Rudrmala, but in front of it, how small VishnuMala is)

6)In one way, every soul is part of VishnuMala, because all the souls are children or dynasty of the same Vishnu (or the initial 9 lakh deity population). But, practically, it is smaller, since later, the name Vishnu gets vanished. [So, it depends how we define take it].

7)In one way, all the 500 crores or 700 crores souls are part of RudrMala, because all are children of Rudr/Shiv. But, practically, all do not do service. Hence only few are worshiped. That is, practical Mala would be smaller. [That is why in some murli points baba says- Rudrmala is of 500 crores, in some Baba says 108].

8)Hence finally both the malas which is made as yaadgaar/memory or kept for worship is of just 8, 108 and 16108, numberwise. They only become valuable.

9)Beads/souls in both RudrMala and VishnuMala are same, the former is of (final stage of) braahmins, and the other deities. Except that Rudr is not present in VishnuMala.

10)Mala is of couples (Pravruttimarg). Because those who are in pravruttimarg only do service. The rank no. 01 and 02 will become a couple in heaven. Similarly, rank no. 3 and 4 will form another couple and so on.

Murli point:- Jinkaa purushaarth ek samaan hotaa hai, unki jodi banti hai = Those whose efforts are equal form couple.

11)RudrMala is also called as GyaanMala. Both RudrMala and VisnhuMala are worshiped.

12)Value of RudrMala would be higher than VishnuMala, because braahmins do service, deities do not. Hence RM is called as simiran karne ki mala. Baba also says braahmins are higher than deities and have the highest place at knot in the head.

13) BhaktMala is not worshiped. Only gaayan(singing, recital) would be there.

14)Those who put more effort(gyaanis) would also do more bhakti. So- beads of RudrMala will also fall into BhaktMala*.

15)BhaktMala is like Mala of Ravan, because it will be during Kingdom of ravan. But that word(Mala of ravan) is not used.

16)All the souls come under Ravan, or all becomes bhagatas/devotees. Hence all the souls get place in Mala of Ravan. But, praises of only the great Bhagats would be sung. Hence in the practical (yaadgaar of) Bhaktmala will again be smaller (contain lesser beads).

Related murli points put below.
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Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:42 pm

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1)07-11-72(3):- Shivbaba kee mala, Vishnu ke maalaa mash_hur hai. Braahman hee rudr_maalaa may jaate hain. Braahmanon kee maalaa ban naheen saktee. Ek bhaktmaalaa kaa bhee shaastr hai. Yah hai rudrmala. Krishnmala hotee naheen. Vishnu kee mala hai. Vah jodaa huvaa pravruttimaarg kaa Vishnu. Yah sakar jodaa. Vah hai pavan. To manushy kahenge na inn jaisaa paavan banaavo. Aim Object to saamne khadaa hai. Tum shyaam se sundar bante ho. Puraanee duniyaa ko laat maarte ho. Parantu tumko swarg hath may de naheen sakte. Isliye Krishn ko diyaa hai. Samjhaayaa jaataa hai inke aatmaa gouree thee. Ab shyaam banee hai.


= Mala of Shivbaba, mala of Vishnu are famous. Brahmins only enter into rudramala. Mala of Brahmins cannot be formed. There is a scripture of(that mentions) mala of devotees. This is rudrmala. There is no such thing called as Krishnmala. There is mala of Vishnu. That is couple of pravruttimarg, Vishnu. …..


2)SM 6-4-79(3):- Yah batein tumhari budhi may hai. Rudr_Mala so rundmala kaise banti hai, kitni knowledge hai. Tumhaare may bhi jo vishalbuddhi hain vah samajh sakte hain. Yah buddhi may yaad rakhne ki baatein hain. Anek prakar se Baap samjhaate hain yaad karne ke liye. Hum rudr_mala may jakar rund_mala may avenge. Phir numberwar aate rahenge. KITNI BADI RUDRMALA BANTI HAI.

=You know these things, how rudr mala becomes Vishnu mala. How much knowledge (you have). Even in you those who have broad intellect understand. These are to be kept in mind. Father explains by different ways for remembrance. We enter into rudr mala and then Vishnu mala. Then descend/come numberwise. How big rudrmala is

3)SM 15-6-85(3):- Yah hai rudr_mala. BAAP KAHTE HAIN 500 KAROD AATMAVON KI MERI MAALAA HAI. OOPAR MAY MAIN PHOOL HUN. Phir part bajaane liye sab yahaan hee aaye hain. Yah drama banaa huvaa hai. Kahaa bhi jaataa hai banaa banaayaa drama hai. Kaise yah drama chalta hai so tum jaante ho. -88- [mala]


= This is RudrMala. Father says- the 500 crore souls belong to my mala. I am the flower at top……


4)9-9-77(2):- LN ki dynasty kitna samay pahley hogi. JO RUDR KI MALA BANTI HAI, VAHI PHIR VISHNU KI MALA BAN JATI HAI. Yah gyaan tum bachchon ko milaa hai. PATIT SE JO PAVAN BANTE HAIN, UNHON KI HEE RUDRMALA NUMBERWAAR BANTI HAI. Rudrmala to bahut badi hai na. YAH 550 KAROD AATMAAVON KI MALA HAI. Sookshmvatan may bhi bani huyi hai na. Mala ka daanaa bhi aisaa bindi muvaaphik banana pade. Rudrmala banaate hain, to chotaa2 muh dete hain. Nahin to sumri nahin jaa sakti. FER NA SAKE. Isliye daaney banate hain. Rudraaksh ki mala yah hai. Vah hai rudraaksh jhaad ke mankon aadi ki. Bahut kisam ki banate hain. Vaastav may tum jaante ho RUDRMALA HEE VISHNU KI MALA BANTI HAI. Rudrmala bahut choti banana padey. AATMAAYEIN PHIR MANUSHY BANTI HAI. Atma kyaa hai? Parmatma kyaa hai? Unka part kyaa hai? Kyaa size hai? Yah baatein tumhaari buddhi may hain. Kitni choti si atma hai. Paramatma ko bhi bhaktimarg may kitni mehnat karni padti hai. Dwaapar se Kaliyug anth tak athavaa Sangam ke anth tak kahe unka part chalta hai. Yah tum jaante ho. -12 [SP, mala, bindu, sookshmvatan]

= when would have been the dynasty of LN? THE RUDRMALA ITSELF LATER BECOMES VISHNUMALA. You children have received this knowledge. Rudramala is of those who become pure from impure. Rudrmala is of very long/big, is it not? IT IS MALA OF 550 CRORES. Even in subtle world, (mala is) prepared, is it not? Beads of mala should be made of points like these. When people prepare rudrmala, they give small face for the beads. Else the beads cannot be rotated. Hence they make beads. The mala of rudraksh is this. That/it is (made from) beads of the tree rudraaaksh. They make different varieties. ACTUALLY YOU KNOW THAT RUDRMALA ITSELF BECOMES MALA OF VISHNU. Rudrmala should be made small (because there is no body in it). The souls then become human beings (receive body). What is soul? What is god? What is his part? What size it is? These matters are in your intellect. How small the soul is. How much effort even god also does in bhaktimarg? From copper age till end of Iron Age or say, confluence age, his part runs. You know this.



5)SM 5-2-71(2):- Shresth ban_ne liye sirf mujhe yaad karo. Aur koyi dehdhaari ko yaad nahin karo. Apne ko atma samajh Baap ko yaad karo to tum tamopradhaan se satopradhaan ban jaavenge. Tum mere paas chale aavenge. MERE GALE KA MAALAA BAN PHIR VISHNU KI MALA BAN JAAVENGE. Mala may oopar may hun main. Phir do(two) yugal hain Brahma Saraswati. Vahi satyug ke Maharaja Maharani ban_ne hain. Unhon ki phir saari mala hai jo numberwaar guddi par baith_te hain. Main is bharat ko in Brahma Saraswati dwaaraa aur braahmanon dwaaraa bharat ko swarg banaataa hun. Jo mehnat karte hain unhon ki phir yaadgaar banti hai. Vahi Rudrmala aur Vishnu ki Mala. Rudr_mala hai aatmaavon ki mala. Aur Vishnu ki Mala hai Manushyon ki.


= To become great, remember me only. Do not remember any bodily personalities. By considering self as soul and remembering father, you will become satopradhan from tamopradhan. You will come to me. You will become garland of my neck and then Vishnumala. It is me at the top of mala. Then the two couple Brahma Saraswati. They only become Maharaja and Maharani of Satyug. The whole Mala is of those who then sit on throne numberwise. Through Brahma, Saraswati and Brahmins I transform Bharat into heaven. Those who put effort, the their yaadgaar(memory) gets formed. They only are rudrmala and vishnumala. RUDRMALA IS OF SOULS AND VISHNUMALA IS OF HUMAN BEINGS.


6)SM 4-2-71(2):- Yah bhi tum JAANTE HO mala kiski bani huyi hai. Oopar may hain ShivBaba. Phir hai yugal Brahma Saraswati. Unhon ki hai yah Mala jo vishw ko narak se swarg, patit se pavan banate hain. Jo service ki jaati hai unhon ki hee yaad rahti hai.


= you also know whose mala it is. On top, there is Shivbaba. Then there is couple Brahma, Saraswati. This mala is theirs, those who make this world hell to heaven, impure to pure. Those who serve only are remembered.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:03 pm

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7)SM 8-7-70(4):-Mala to hai Shivbaba ki. Ram2 kah_kar mala pherkar pichaadi may aakar Shivbaba ko maathaa tekthe hain. Kyonki usnay inhon ko aisaa banaayaa. Yah sabhi devta ban gaye. Rudr_Mala hai na. Phir vahi rund_mala banti hai. Yah arth bhi tum samajhte ho. Hum abhi Shivbaba rudr ke gale ka haar banen. Hum padhaayi padhte hain. Phir hum poojy banenge. Tum hi Rudr_mala, tumhi Rund_mala, tumhi poojaari bante ho. Aape hi poojy… HUMSO KA ARTH KITNA SAHAJ HAI.


=Mala is of shivbaba. They chant Ram2 and then in the end bow to Shivbaba. Because he only made these like that. All of these became deities. There/It is Rudr Mala, is it not? Then that itself becomes rundmala(rund=face, rundmala= Vishnumala which is of corporeal, that is both soul and body are worshipped). You know meaning of this also. We learn the study. Then we become worship worthy. You only become rudrmala, you only become Vishnu Mala, you only become worshipers. You only are worship worthy and you only are worshippers. HOW SIMPLE IT IS- THE MEANING OF “HUM SO= WE ARE THAT and THAT IS US.”



8)SM 6-4-78(3):- Sahaj ho, to phir sab paas ka le. Laakhon ki maalaa ban jaaye. Yah drama hee kaayde anusaar hai. Mukhy hai 8. Unmey phark pad nahin saktaa. 77-


=If it is easy, then all will pass. Then lakhs will get seat in Mala. This drama is according to law. Important are 8. There cannot be change in this.


9)SM 21-9-73(1):- Laakhon saaligraam banate hain. Maalaa phir hai anany kee. RUDR_MALA 108 KI AUR 16108. Unhon_ne madad kee thee. Jo bahut madad karenge nazdeek aanevaale honge. 95


= Saligrams are made of lakhs. (But) Mala is made of only anany(most precious). RUDRMALA IS OF 108 AND 16108. They had served/helped. Those who help maximum come near.


10)SM 15-1-81(2):- Tumhaare may bhi numberwaar purushaarth anusaar hai. Tumhaari rudrmala bhi banti hai, rundmala bhi banti hai. Bachchon ko samjhaayaa hai yah saari mala hai. Ek rund mala, doosri hai rudrmala. VAH SAB HAI BROTHERS. VAH PHIR BROTHERS SISTERS. Yah to buddhi may aataa hai na. Hum aatmaayein bahut choti2 hain. Ekdum bindi hain. – 19-, 7- [mala, bhayi-behen]


=Among you also effort is numberwise. Your both rudrmala and rundmala get formed. It is explained to children that all these are(belong to) mala. One is rundmala, the other is rudrmala. That one is of just brothers. The other one is of brothers and sisters. …..
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:39 pm

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11)SM 22-6-72(2):- Bhakt bhakti may baithe hain. Praan chodney bhi taiyyar ho jaate hain. Achche2 bhakton ke maalaa bane huye hain. Rudrmala bhi hai to bhaktmala bhi hai. RUDRMALA SECOND MAY BANTE HAIN. Bhakti to karte raho? (word is not clear). Vah phir bhaktmala may gaaye jaate hain. Vah hai durgati ki mala, yah hai sadgati ki mala. Sabhi se jaasti bhakti braahmanon ne kee hogi jo hi phir devtaa bante hain. Aape hee poojy, aape hee poojaari. Bhakt to sabhi hain. Parantu Baap sammukh unkey aage honge jo aatmaayein aur parmatma alag rahe bahukaal…-201

= ......Rudrmala gets formed in a second......

12)SM 20-4-89(1):- Yah bhi bachche jaante hain Rudr_mala bhi hai jo gaayi aur pooji jati hai. Simiran ki jati hai. Bhakt_mala bhi hai. Oonch te oonch bhakton ki maalaa hai. Hai to saari bhakt_mala, ravan_mala. Is kalp ke Sangamyug ke pahle jo bhi hain sab hai ravan_mala. Usmey phir bhakt_mala bhi hai. Bhakt_mala ke baad honi chahiye gyaan_mala. Bhakti aur gyaan hai na. Bhakt_mala bhi hai to rudr_mala bhi hai. Peeche phir rund_mala kaha jata hai. Kyonki oonche te oonch manushy srushti may hain Vishnu jisko sookshm_vatan may dikhate hain. LN raajy to yahaan karte hain to kahenge Vishnu ki rund_mala bhi hai. Prajapita Brahma to yah hai. Unki mala zaroor hai. Aakhrin yah mala bann jaayegi. Tab hi vah rudr_mala aur Vishnu ki rund_mala banegi. Oonche te oonch hai ShivBaba. Phir oonch te oonch hai Vishnu ka raajy. Yah trimurti jo dikhaya hai- usmey hona chahiye Brahma Vishnu aur Shiv na ki Shankar. Parantu baaju may Shiv ko kaise rakhen? To phir Shankar ko rakh diya hai. Aur Shiv ko oopar may rakha hai. Usmey shobha achchi hoti hai. Sirf do(=two) shobha nahin dete. Shankar ki mala nahin kahenge. Brahma Vishnu aur Rudr Mala; Bas. Shobha ke liye bhakti may kitney chitr banaye hain. Parantu gyaan kuch bhi nahin hai. Tum jo chitr banate ho unki pahchaan deni hai to manushy samajh jaaye. Nahin to Shiv Shankar ko mila dete hain. Baba ne samjhaya hai sookshm_vatan may bhi saari saakshaatkaar ki baath hai. Haddi maans vahaan hota nahin. Saakshaatkaar karte hain. Sampoorn Brahma bhi hai. Parantu vah hai sampoorn avyakti. Abhi vyakt Brahma jo hai, unko avyakt ban_na hai. Vyakt hi avyakt hota hai jisko pharista bhi kahte hain. Unka sookshmvatan may chitr rakh diya hai. Sookshmvatan may jate hain, kahte hain, Baba ne shoobi_ras pilaya. Ab vahaan jhaad aadi hota nahi. Vaikunth may hain, lekin aise nahin ki vaikunth se le aakar pilate honge. Yah sab sookshmvatan may saakshaatkaar ki baath hai. Ab bachche jante hain ab vaapis ghar jana hai. -154


= Children also know that rudr Mala is also there which is praised and worshiped. It is remembered/chanted. There is also bhakt Mala. It is of highest devotees. Actually all belong to bhaktmala, ravan Mala. All belong to ravan Mala before coming to confluence age in this kalpa. In it there is also bhakt mala. After the bhakt Mala, gyan mala should form/come. There is bhakt mala and also rudr mala. Later it is said rundmala. Because highest of high in this creation is Vishnu who is shown in subtle world. LN rule here. So (we) say there is also Rund mala of Vishnu. This is Prajapita Brahma. Definitely there is mala of him. This mala will get formed in the end. Then only it will become rudrmala and rundmala of Vishnu. Highest of high is shivbaba. Then highest of high is kingdom of Vishnu. In the trimurti shown- there should be brahma Vishnu and shiv and not Shankar. But how can shiv be placed in the side? Hence Shankar is placed. And shiv is placed on the top. That looks good. Just two (below) does not look good. It cannot be said mala of Shankar. Brahma, Vishnu and Rudrmala. That is all. For show purpose, in bhakti, so many pictures are done. But, there is no knowledge at all. If you explain through the picture you prepare, people may understand. Else, they mix Shiv and Shankar. Baba has explained about subtle world that it is all about visions. There is no bones and flesh. Visions happen. There is also complete Brahma. The present vyakt(corporeal) Brahma will become avyakt. The same vyakt becomes avyakt. His picture is kept at subtle world. Children go to subtle world. They say baba gave us shoobiras to drink. Now, there is nothing like trees, etc. It would be in heaven. But it is not that baba brings it from heaven and gives. It is all about visions. Now, children know that we have to return home.


13)SM 12-4-78(3):- Creator Director hai PP Shiv. Vah BVS ko bhi create karte hain, phir unko direction dete hain. Phir Brahma kee Mala badal Rudrmala phir Vishnu kee mala banegi. 86-


=Creator, Director is PP Shiv. He creates even BVS. Then mala of Brahma then changes into rudramala, then into Vishnu mala.


14)SM 16-10-77(3):- Govt bhi scholarship deti hai. Tumhaari bhi mala bani huyi hai. 108 ki bhi mala hoti hai aur 16108 ki bhi hoti hai. Ek box banate hain, usmey daal dete hain. Ab tum samajh gaye ho yah mala kiski hai. Rudraaksh ki mala kisko kaha jata hai? PAHLEY HAI BRAHMA KI MALA. Baap rachna rach rahe hain na. Brahma ki mala kounsi hai? Jo bahut teekhey honge vahi brahma ke dil par chadhenge. Jo brahma ke dil par chadhenge, vahi shivbaba ke dil par chadhenge. YAH HAI BRAHMA KI MALA. Sabhi bachche hain na. TO PAHLEY UNKI MALA, PHIR RUDR KI MALA BANTI HAI. Phir jaakar Vishnu ke galey padenge. Vah heavenly Kingdom ab sthaapan ho rahi hai. -66 [= 19-9-82(2) -27- ]


= Govt also gives scholarship. Mala of yours is available/famous. There is of 108, and also 16108. In a box, they put it. Now you know whose mala it is. Which is mala of rudraksh? FIRST IS MALA OF BRAHMA. Father is creating creation, is it not? Which is mala of brahma? Those who are powerful will sit on/win heart of brahma. Those who win heart of Brahma only win heart of Shivbaba. This is mala of Brahma. All are children, is it not? So, FIRST IS HIS(BRAHMA’S) MALA, THEN RUDRMALA GETS FORMED. Then (they) get seated around neck of Vishnu. That heavenly kingdom is being established now.
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Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:28 am

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Sometimes- Baba directly equates both the malas, he says RudrMala = Vishnu Mala. [Like Shivaalay actually is only Paramdham, but it can also also mean for heaven, since it is established by ShivBaba.]

15)SM 11-3-76(2):- Bhakt maalaa alag hai, Rudr maalaa alag hai. Gyaan ki mala alag hai. Bhakti ki mala alag hai. Uski kab poojaa nahin hoti. Rudr mala pooji jaati hai. Oopar hai phool. Phir Meru, phir hain bachche. Jo raj guddi par baith_the hain. RUDR MALA HEE VISHNU KI MALA HAI. BHAKTON KI MALA KAA SIRF GAAYAN HOTA HAI. YAH RUDR MALA TO SAB PHERTEY HAIN. Bhakt mala hai patiton ki maalaa. Meeraa aadi sab gruhasthi, bhakt theen. Tum bhakt nahin, tum gyaani ho. Baap kahte hain mujhe gyaani tu atma priy lagti hai. -104-


=Bhaktmala is different, rudr mala is different. Mala of gyaan is different, Mala of bhakti is different. Worship of that(bhakt mala) does not take place. Rudr mala gets worshipped. On the top, there is flower. Then meru(top two), then the children who sit on throne. RUDR MALA ITSELF IS MALA OF VISHNU. There is just gaayan of bhaktmala. This rudrmala is remembered by all. Bhakt mala is mala of impures. ….



16)SM 29-10-82(1):- Geeth- marna teri gali may. .. Om shanti. Gali may aakar marnaa hota hai? Manushy chaahte hain ki hum muktidhaam may jaave, PARAMPITA PARMATMA SHIVBABA KI VIJAYMAKLA MAY PIRO JAAVE. BACHCHE YAH JAANTE HAIN JO BHI MANUSHY MAATR KI AATMAAYEIN HAIN VAH BAAP KE GALEY KAA HAAR ZAROOR HAIN. Jaise lowkik Baap ki rachnaa, lowkik Baap ke galey kaa haar hai. Bachche Baap ko Baap bachchon ko yaad karte hain. Vaise vaastav may jo bhi aatmaayein hain vah sab yaad karti hain parampita parmatma Baap ko. Vah hai hadh ka Baap, yah hai behad ka Baap. Harek manushy chaahte hain hum mukti ko praapt kare. KYONKI NIRAAKAAR KE GALEY KAA HAAR ARTHAATH MUKTI. AUR VISHNU KE GALEY KAA HAAR ARTHAATH JIVANMUKTI. BAAP MUKTI AUR JIVANMUKTI DETE HAIN. Behad ke Baap ke bachche banenge tab to unkey galey ka haar honge. Lowkik Maa Baap ke galey kaa haar hain bachche. -33 [mala] = SM 29-10-82(1) – 66


= People try to get into land of liberation, to get into VijayMala of ShivBaba. .....Taking seat at neck of incorporeal means liberation, and taking seat at neck of Vishnu means liberation in life. .....
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:54 am

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# Post No. 06

Here, Baba says Rudrmala cannot be worshiped. Because body is impure hence not worship worthy. Just like Shiv is worshipped as ling, the top souls would be worshiped like saligram. But, RudrMala is just sumiran karne kaa hai = just to remember by chanting.


17)SM 14-3-76(1):- Baap Brahma dwara sab samjhaani dete hain. VIJAY MALA JISKO RUDR_MALA KAHA JAATAA HAI, JO MANUSHY POOJTEY HAIN, Sumirtey hain. Tum bachche samajhte ho yah rudrmala sirf sumiri jati hai yaa pooji bhi jati hai? Meru to kaha jata hai Brahma Saraswati ko. Baaki Mala hai bachchon ki. Vishnu ki Mala to theek hai. Pooji ja sakti hai. Is samay tum purushaarthi ho. Tumhaaraa sumiran hoti hai anth may. Tumhaari aatmaavon kaa yaa poojan bhi hota hai? Yah aatmaavon ki mala hai yaa jeevaatmaavon ki hai? Prashn uthegaa na. Vishnu ki mala to kahenge chaitany jeevaatmaavon ki mala, LN pooje jate hain na. Kyonki inhon ki atma aur sharir donon pavitr hain. Rudr Mala jo hai vah sirf aatmaavon ki hai, kyonki sharir toh apavitr hai. Vah pooje nahin jaa saktey. (Just) Atma kaise pooji jati hai? Tum kahte ho rudrmala pooji jati hai. Parantu naheen. Pooji nahin jati hai. Jab naam hi hai SUMIRANI, jo bhi daaney hain, vah hain tum bachchon ke. Vah sumiran jate hain jab sharir may hain. Daaney toh braahmanon ke hain. Sumiran kiskaa karte hain, yah to kisko pataa hee nahin hai.


= Father gives all teachings through Brahma. Vijaymala which is also called as rudr mala; people worship it. They do sumiran. You children understand- this rudr mala- is it just remembered or does it get worshiped? Meru(highest couple) is said to Brahma Saraswati. The rest of mala is of children. It is right that mala of Vishnu is worshipped. This time you are effort makers. Your sumiran happens in the end. Does even the worship of you souls take place? Is this mala of souls or living souls? Question will rise, is it not? Vishnu mala is mala of chaitany living souls. LN get worshipped, is it not? Because both their soul and body are pure. Rudrmala is of just souls, because body is impure. That(body) cannot be worshipped. How (just) soul can be worshipped? You say- rudr mala gets worshipped. But, in fact No. When the name itself is sumirani(being remembered. All the beads represent you children. They are remembered (done sumiran) when they are in body (because they do service in Confluence age). Beads (of rudramala) is of braahmins. Whose sumiran is done, nobody knows this.





..........Yah hai braahman jo bhaarat ki seva karte hain. Unko yaad karte hain. Jagadamba aadi deviyaan bahut hain. Unko yaad karnaa chahiye. Poojan laayak LN bante hain. DEVIYON KE SHARIR HAIN PATIT. ATMA PAVITR HAI. PARANTU VAH POOJI TOH NAHIN JAA SAKTI HAI. Sumiri jaa sakti hai.

=.....these are braahmins who serve bharat. Those are remembered. There are many devis like Jagadamba. They should be remembered. LN become eligible for worship (not Jagadamba). Bodies of devis are impure. [b]Soul is pure. But it cannot be worshipped. It can be remembered(done sumiran).






.......Koyi bhi tumsey poochey to samjhaa huvaa hona chahiye. Tum toh braahmaniyaan, tumhaari yaadgaar deviyon ke roop may hain. Tumhaaraa poojan ho na sake. Kyonki sharir patit hai. Sumiran jo karte hain daaney kaa, yah kiskaa sumiran karte hain. Atma ko to jaante nahin. TUM SRIMAT PAR KHUD BHI PAVITR BANTE HO, TOH YAH MALA FIRST YAH BRAAHMANON KI SAMJHI JAAYE. PHIR DEVTAAVON KI. VSM karne se result niklegi. Mala poojtey to hain. UNKO YAH PATA NAHIN HAI KI RUDR MALA SO VISHNU KI MALA BANTI HAI. Rudr Mala to hai sakari bachchon ki jinhoney seva ki hai. ShivBaba ne bhi sharir ka aadhaar lekar tumko sikhaayaa hai. Rudr mala ShivBaba ke galey kaa haar banaya hai. Phir bhi kaise samjhaa jaaye ki atma pooji jaati hai. Yah to sumiran hain. Rudr Mala sumri jati hai. LN poojey jate hain. Sirf atma kaise pooji jaavegi? Tum kahte ho rudr mala pooji jati hai. Parantu poojan laayak to sirf atma hai, sharir to hai patit. Atma pure banti hai. Vah kaise pooji jaavegi. Baba kahte hain unkaa sirf sumiran kiya jata hai. Vaastav may sumiran tumko kiya jata hai. Tum deviyaan bhi sakar may hain, service tum kar rahi ho. Tumhaari mala theek hai. Meru Brahma Saraswati aur tum bachche. Yah hai sakar mala. Yah baatein tum hee jaante ho. [b]Sirf aatmaayein saaligraam roop may hain. To aatmaayein pooji jati hain- Shiv ki poojaa hoti hai to Saaligraamon ko bhi poojte hain. Kyonki pavitr atma hain, sharir (pavitr) hai nahin
. Sumiran sirf tumhaaraa kiya jata hai. Kyonki tum sharir saath seva karti ho. Poojaa nahin ho sakti hai. Phir jab sharir chodte ho toh tum bhi Shiv ke saath pooje jate ho.

= when anybody asks you, you should be a learned one. You are female braahmins. Your yaadgaar(memory) is in the form of devis. Your worship is not possible, because body is impure. People remember(do sumiran) beads; whom do they remember(do sumiran)? They do not know the/about soul. You also become purified by srimat. Hence first, THE MALA SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS THAT OF BRAAHMINS. Then that of deities. By doing VSM result will come. (Of course,) (the) mala is worshipped. THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT RUDRMALA BECOMES VISHNUMALA. Rudrmala is of corporeal children who have done service. Even Shivbaba also has taught you by taking support of body. Rudrmala is made to represent mala of neck of Shivbaba. Even then how to understand/prove that souls are worshipped? This is (just) remembering(sumiran). Rudrmala gets remembered(sumiran). LN get worshipped. How just soul can be worshipped? You say rudrmala gets worshipped. But just soul is eligible for worship. Body is impure. Soul gets purified. How can that(body) be worshipped? Baba says- those are just remembered(done sumiran). In fact you are remembered. You devis also are in sakar and do service. Your mala is ok(= you are eligible for mala, since you do service). Meru Brahma Saraswati and children. This is sakar(corporeal) mala. You only know these matters. IF JUST SOULS ARE IN THE FORM OF SAALIGRAAM(INCORPOREAL) THEY ARE WORSHIPPED. DURING POOJA/WORSHIP OF SHIV EVEN SAALIGRAAMS ARE ALSO WORSHIPPED. BECAUSE SOUL IS PURE, but not the body. Remembering(sumiran) is done of just yours(those who do service through body). Because you do service through body. Your worship is not possible. When you leave your body, then even you also BECOME ELIGIBLE TO BE WORSHIPPED WITH SHIV.






......Vichaar kiye jate hain na. Tum is samay braahman ho. ShivBaba bhi Brahma may aate hain. Toh Brahma bhi sakar may hain. Tum mehnat karte ho. Yah mala jaise sakari hai. Brahma Saraswati aur tum gyaan gangaayein. Tumne Bharat ko swarg banaya. Yah rudr yagy rachkar jo pooje jate hain usmey Shiv aur saaligraam hote hain. Unmey Brahma Saraswati kaa athvaa tum bachchon kaa naam nahin hai. Yahaan to sabke naam hain. Tumko sumiran karte hain. Koun2 gyaan gangaayein theen. Vah to hain gyaan ka sagar. Yah hai Brahmaputra badi nadi. Yah Brahma Mata bhi hai. Sagar ek hai. Baaki Gangaayein to kisam2 ki anek prakaar ki hoti hain numberwaar. Jinmey achchaa gyaan hai, unko Saraswati kaha jata hai. Mahima bhi hai.

= ......Thinking/churning is done is it not. You are braahmins at present. Even Shivbaba comes in Brahma. So brahma also is in sakar. You put effort. This/the mala is (actually of those who are in) saakaar(corporeal). Brahma Saraswati and you gyaan ganges- you made bharat into heaven Those who are worshiped during rudra yag are (just) Shiv and saaligram. THERE IS NO NAME OF BRAHMA SARASWATI OR YOU CHILDREN IN IT Here(in mala) names of all are present. You are remembered(done sumiran) like who all had been gyaan ganges(rivers of knowledge). He is ocean of knowledge….



In case of mala, every bead is remembered, given value. But, when saligrams are woshiped with Shiv, no such things. There is name meru daan(top couple) in mala, but nothing such thing in saligrams. In Mala, the position of each bead is numberwise. But, when saligrams are worshiped, there is no any order.





...........Maanasarovar may snaan karne se parijaade ban jaate hain. Toh tumhaari mala sumri jati hai. SUMIRANI kahte hain na. Sumiran karo. Vah to sirf Ram2 kahte rahte hain. Parantu tum jaante ho sumiran kinkaa hoga jo jaasti service karte hain. Pahle to Baba hai phool. Phir Meru jo bahut mehnat karte hain. PHIR HAI RUDR MALA SO PHIR VISHNU KI MALA BANTI HAI. TUMHAARI SIRF ATMA POOJI JATI HAI. SHARIR KE SAATH NAHIN. Tum sumiran laayak ho. Sumrani tumhaari hai. GYAAN SAGAR AUR GYAAN GANGAAVON KI POOJAA NAHIN HO SAKTI. KYONKI SHARIR SAATH COMBINED HO. Atma pavitr, sharir apavitr. Apavitr cheez kabhi pooji nahin jaati. Jab rudr mala ban_ne laayak ban jate ho phir anth may tum siddh ho jate ho. Tumko saakshaatkaar hogaa pass with honour koun2 hote hain. Service karne kaa naamaachaar bahut hogaa. Maaloom padtaa jaavegaa. VijayMala may numberwaar koun2 aavenge.

= .....by taking bath in maan_sarovar (similar to a river, here means river of knowledge), one becomes farista/parijaadaa. So your mala is remembered(done sumiran). …. Those who do more service are remembered. First is Baba- the flower. Then the meru(top most pair), who put high effort. THEN IS RUDR MALA WHICH LATER/THEN BECOMES MALA OF VISHNU. Just soul of you gets worshipped. Not with the body. You are eligible for being remembered. Sumirani (=remembrance) is of yours. WORSHIP OF OCEAN OF KNOWLEDGE AND RIVERS OF KNOWLEDGE IS NOT POSSIBLE. Because of the combination with the body (while doing service). Soul is pure, body is impure. Impure things never get worshipped. When you become eligible to become(enter into) rudrmala, then in the end you prove yourself(your status gets fixed/finalized). …..






.............Shuru may maalaayein banayi thi, unsey bahut bhaaganti ho gaye. Kin par grahachari baith jati hai. Phir kab khade ho jate hain. Koyi naam roop may phas padte hain. Achche2 bachche hain, male bhi hain, female bhi hain- Aksar karke bade2 sab centres par grahachaari baith_thi hai. To yah baatein badi guhy hain. Moti budhi samajh na sake. Sab hain nayi batein. Manushy to sirf Ram2 kahte rahte hain. Christian log Christ ko yaad karte honge. Mala kiski hogi? God to ek hai. Baaki jo paas baith_the hain, unki mala banti hogi. Tumhaari is Mala kaa pata na hone kaaran apne dharm ki hee uthaathe hain. Christ aadi ki banaayi hogi. Is mala ko tum abhi sirf samajh sakte ho- apne ASDDDharm vale hee samajh nahin sakte to aur kaise samajhenge. Sabhi ko patit se pavan banaanevaalaa to ek hee Baap hai. -108-

= .................in the beginning, malas were formed. Many left from them. Grahachaari(bad state) sits/falls on somebody. They stand up later. Some get trapped in name and form. There are good children, both male and females. Usually bad state falls/sits on all the big centres. So, these matters are very deep. Dull intellects will not understand. All are new matters. People just chant ram2. Christian people may be remembering Christ. Whose mala would (it) be? God is just one. (So) it would be of those who sit near (to God). Since they do not know about mala of yours, they take mala of their own religion. They might have prepared of Christ, etc. You will have knowledge of mala only at present. When people of our own religion ASDDDharm(= Hindus) do not know, how can others know/understand? The one who purifies all is just one father.
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Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:15 am

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Why Vishnu Mala is also called as VijayMala? Because Mala is of Kings or royal family who have got victory and hence Kings are none but rulers.

18)SM 5-3-78(1):- Samshaybuddhi vinashyanti. Ab mujh par nishchay rakho to nishchaybuddhi vijayanti. Vijaymala ke daaney ban jaavenge. Mala ka raaz bhi samjhaya hai. Jo achchi service karte hain unki Vijaymala banti hai. Sabse achchi service karnevaale rudrmala may aage jate hain. Phir Vishnu ki mala may aage avenge numberwaar. 108 phir 16000 ki mala bhi add karo. Aisey nahin Satyug treta may sirf 108 hi prince princess honge. VRUDDHI HOTI HAI MALA BADHTI JATI HAI. PRAJA KI VRUDDHI HOGI TO ZAROOR PRINCE PRINCESS KI BHI VRUDDHI HOGI. Baap kahte hain kuch bhi na samjho to poocho. Hey mere laadley bachche mujhe jaan_ne se manushy srushti jhaad ko jaan javenge. - 46 [mala, srimat, raay]

= .....It is not that in Golden and Silver Age, there would be just 108 prince and princes. As population increases, the mala grows. When population of citizens increase, population of prince, princess also will increase. ...........


19)SM 9-3-78(3):- Most beloved baap hai Chakmak(mostly Magnet) par suyiyaan(needles) kheenchkar aati rahengi. Koyi may kat(rust) jasti hoti hai, koyi may kum. Nazdeek vaali to ekdum aakar milegi. Saaf suyi jhat kheench aavengi. Baap kat ko nikaal kar aisaa chamkaate hain jo tum bachche VAHAAN SAATH AAKAR RAHENGE. TUMKO RUDRMALA MAY PIRONA HAI. Gaayan bhi hai, parantu jante nahin yah mala kiski bani huyi hai. TUM AB JANTE HO MERI MALA JO HOGI VAH SWARG KE MALIK BANENGE. BHAKTMALA RAVAN KI MALA HOGI. Bhaktmala ko tum samajh gaye ho. Vah ravan ki mala hai. PAHLEY RAVAN KI MALA MAY KOUN AATE HAIN? POOJY SE POOJAARI KOUN BANTE HAIN? AAPE HEE POOJY DEVTAA PHIR POOJARI BANTE HO. Yah kitni guhy baatein samajhne ki hain. Tum ho phillianthrophist. Deh sahit sab kuch baba ko bali chadhte ho. -53 [mala]

= ..........Now, you know that those who come in my maalaa, become masters of heaven. Bhaktmala is mala of ravan. ....Who first come into the ravan mala? Who become worshipers from worship worthy? You only become poojy(worship worthy) and poojaaris(worshipers). How deep these matters are.....



20)SM 1-9-78(1):- Gyaan maalaa kaa naam hai Rudrmala. Vah hai bhakt mala. Ravan mala nahin kahenge. Ravan ki bhakti toh nahin karthay. RAM MALA HAI. BHAL ABHI RAVAN RAAJY HAI, PARANTU RAAVAN KI MAALAA NAHIN HOTI. Bhakti mala hoti hai. ASURON KI MALA TOH NAHI HOTI. Bhakt shiromani ek toh mira hai. Unko Krishn kaa saakshaatkaar hotaa tha. Loklaaj saari khaayi thi. Second number may bhakt shiromani koun thaa? Narad. Haan Narad kaa gaayan hai. Unkaa drushthanth diyaa hai. Yah sab baatein baith banaayi hain. Real nahin hain. Ramayan, Mahabharat aadi shastron may kitni jhooth daal di hai. -97 [mala]

= name of gyaanmaalaa is Rudrmala. The other one is bhaktmala. It is not said as RavanMala. Ravan is not worshiped. RamMala is there. Of course, now it is Ravan Raajy. But, there is no mala of ravan= It is not known as ravanMala. It is known as BhaktMala. There is no mala of asuras (= Even it cannot be called as Mala of asuras(demons), because while chanting mala, they will be like devotees, not attached to vices)......


21)SM 15-6-82(1):- Tumhaaraa deevaa bhujaa huva thaa. Ab yaad se apnaa deevaa jagaate ho. Tumhaaraa deevaa jagtaa rahtaa hai. Satyug se tretaa tak jagtaa rahegaa. Isko deepmaalaa kahte hain. RUDRMALA AUR DEEPMALA BAATH EK HEE HAI. YAAD TOH SHIVBABA KO HEE KARNAA HAI NA. TUM ASAL MAY RUDRMALA KE MOTI HO NA ARTHAATH NIRVAANDHAAM MAY RAHNEVAALE HO. Usey Shivbaba ka dhaam, Rudrdhaam bhi kah saktey hain. -63 [mala, shivbaba]


= Your light has become dim/dark. By remembrance you make it bright. From Golden Age till Silver Age, it will be bright. You may say Rudr_Mala or Deep_Mala. (Whatever you may say), You have to remember Shivbaba only.....
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:47 pm

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# Post No. 08:-

22)SM 4-11-78(2):- Brahma bhi service par haajir hai. Aur phir jo sthaapnaa karte hain, vahi phir Vishnu ke do roop se paalnaa karenge. Mujhe PPB zaroor chaahiye. Adi Dev kaa barobar mandir bhi hai. Adi Dev kiskaa bachchaa hai? koyi bataavey. Is dilvaalaa mandir ke jo trustee log hain, vah bhi yah nahin jaante ki Adi Dev koun hai?, Unkaa Baap koun thaa? Adi Dev PPB hai. Unkaa Baap hai Shiv. Ab jinkaa mandir hai, unkey occupation ko nahin jaanthay aur baney hain trustee. Jagatpita kaa yah yaadgaar mandir hai. Is Adi Dev brahma ke rath may Baap ne baith gyaan sunaayaa. Kothari (room) may sab bachchey baithay hai. Sabhi kaa mandir toh nahin banaavenge. MUKHY HAI 108 KI MAALAA. TOH 108 KOTHARIYON KO BANAA DEE HAI. 108 KI HI POOJAA HOTI HAI. MUKHY HAI SHIVBABA. Phir Brahma, Saraswati yugal. Vah Shivbaba hai phool. Unko apnaa sharir nahin hai. Brahma, Saraswati ko apnaa sharir hai. MAALAA SHARIRDHAARIYON KI BANI HUYI HAI, PHOOLON KI TOH NAHIN HAI. Sab maalaa ko poojte hain. Poojaa kar pooraa karenge, phir Shivbaba ko namaskaar karenge. Maathaa jhukaavenge. Kyonki usney in sabko patit se paavan banaayaa hai. Isliye pooje, gaaye jaate hain. MAALAA HAATH MAY LE BAITH RAM2 KAHTE HAIN. PARAMPITA PARAMATMA KE NAAM KAA KISKO PATAA NAHIN HAI. Shivbaba hai mukhy. Phir Brahma Saraswati bhi mukhy hai.


= There is temple of Adi Dev. Whose child Adi Dev is? The trustees of Dilwara temple also do not know who is Adi Dev. ....Adi Dev is Prajapita Brahma. His father is Shiv. ....In the body of Adi Dev, father sat and spoke knowledge. In rooms all the children are shown. Temple of all would not be done. Main is mala of 108. So- there are 108 rooms. Pooja of 108 happens. main is Shivbaba. Then couple Brahma and saraswati. ShivBaba is flower, he has no body. B and S have body. Mala is of bodily personalities, not of flowers.All worship mala. After the pooja, they salute to Shivbaba. They will bow their head. Because he only purified all.

23)SM 5-8-77(3):- Baap kahte hain humaarey galey kaa haar ban_ney se phir Vishnu ke galey kaa haar banenge. Giregaa bhi pahley vah. Vah poojaari bante hain toh ravan ke galey kaa haar bante hain. Aakhrin yah haalath ho jaati hai. Tum jaante ho hum aadhaa kalp sukh may, aadhaa kalp dukh may rahte hain. Pahley number kaa prince, vahi phir poojaari patit banegaa. Ravan ke galey kaa haar pahley2 devi devataayein bante hain. Phir aur dharmvaaley aayenge. Vah bhi ravan ke galey kaa haar banenge. Anth may sabhi ravan ke galey kaa haar ban jaate hain. Yah drama kaa khel aisaa banaa huvaa hai. -51 [mala]


= .....Father says- you come into garland/rosary of my neck, then of Vishnu. They only will first fall. .... Deities first come into garland of ravan. The other religions come later. they also fall into into RavanMala. In the end, all fall into RavanMala. The game of drama is made so.


Of the devotees in Bhaktmala, all will not become Bks in their last birth, but some will definitely become:-


24)SM 26-5-85(1):- Yaad may hee mehnath hai. Bahut thode hain jo yaad may rahte hain. BHAKT MALA BHI THODON KI HAI NA. DHANNA BHAKT, NARAD, MEERA, AADI KAA NAAM HAI. ISMEY BHI SAB TOH NAHIN AAKAR PADHENGE. KALP PAHLEY JIN_HONEY PADHA HAI, VAHI AATE HAIN. -77 [mala, meera]

= The difficulty is in remembrance. Very few only remember. Even Bhakt_mala is of few, is it not. Names of Dhaanna Bhakt, Narad, Meera, etc are famous. Of these, all do not come and study. Those who had studied in last kalpa only will come.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:18 pm

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# Post No. 09:-

25) SM 17-1-89(1):- AISEY NAHEEN KI PICHAADEE MAY AANEVAALE MAALAA KAA DAANAA NAHEEN BAN SAKTEY HAIN. VAH BHEE BANENGE. NOUDHAA BHAKTIVAALE RAATH DIN BHAKTI MAY LAGE RAHTE HAIN. TAB UNHONKO SAAKSHAATKAAR HOTAA HAI. YAHAAN BHEE AISE NIKLENGE. JO RAATH DIN MEHNATH KAR PATIT SE PAAVAN BANENGE. Chance sabko hai. -20- [yaad, maalaa]


= It is not that those who come late do not get place in mala. They also will become beads. Those who do noudha bhakti will be in bhakti day and night. Then they get vision. Here also some will be so. They will put effort day and night and become pure. All have chance.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:36 am

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Post No. 10:- Highest murli points in simplest/clearest words:-

26)SM 8-2-89(1):- KHAATE PEETE JAISE KI IS SHAREER MAY HUN HEE NAHEEN. YAH AVASTHAA PAKKAA KARNEE HAI. TAB 8 RATNON KEE MAALAA MAY AA SAKTEY HAIN. Mehnath bigar thode hee oonch pad mil saktaa hai. -52 [mala]

= While eating, drinking, it is as if I am not in the body at all. This stage should become stable. Then one can come in mala of 8.




27)SM 17-3-89(2):- Jab kisi ko samjhaate ho toh bhee aise samjho- hum bhaayiyon ko samjhaate hain. Yahee drushti rahe- ismey hee bhaaree mehnath hai. Mehnath se hee oonch pad miltaa hai. Baap bhee aise dekhenge. Baap kee nazar bhee bhrukuti ke beech may jaayegi. Atma toh chotee bindi hai. Sunti bhee vahee hai. Tum Baap ko bhee bhrukuti ke beech may dekhenge. Baap bhee yahaan hai to bhaayi (Brahma ki atma) bhee yahaan hai. Aisey buddhi may rahne se tum bhee gyaan saagar ke bachche gyaan saagar ban jaate ho. Tumhaare liye toh bahut sahaj hai. Gruhasth vyavahaar may rahnevaalon ko yah avasthaa zaraa mushkil hai. Sunkar ghar chale jaate hain. Vahaan kaa vaataavaran hee aur hai. Yahaan sahaj hai. Baba yukti bahut sahaj bataate hain. APNEY KO ATMA SAMJHO, BAAP KO YAAD KARO. YAH BHEE BHAAYI HAI. IS DRUSHTI SE KARM BANDHAN SE ATEET HO JAAYENGE. SHAREER BHEE BHOOL JAATAA HAI. SIRF BAAP HEE YAAD RAHTAA HAI. ISMEY MEHNATH KARTE RAHENGE TAB PASS WITH HONOUR HONGE. AISEE AVASTHAA MAY VIRLAA HEE KOYI RAHTAA HAI. VISHW KAA MAALIK BHEE VAHEE BANTE HAIN. 8 RATNON KEE MAALAA HAI NA. To purushaarth karnaa hai. Oonch pad paanevaale kaise bhee karke purushaarth zaroor karte honge. ISMEY DOOSREE KUCH BHEE BAATEIN NIKALTEE NAHEEN HAI. Bhaayi2 ki drushti sneh aur sambandh ho jaataa hai. Drushti vah jam jaatee hai. Isliye baap kahte hain tumko bahut guhy2 baatein sunaataa hun. Ismey abhyaas karnaa mehnath kaa kaam hai. Yahaan bhee baithay ho toh apney ko atma samjho. Atma hee suntee hai. Sun_ney_vaali atma ko tum dekhte ho. -104- [yaad, mala]



= Whenever you explain to others, consider that I am explaining to brothers. Let this drusthi only remain. In this, there is lot of effort. Through effort, you attain high status. Father also sees so. Father’s drushti also will go into bhrukuti/forehead. Father is also here(at bhrukuti), so even the soul of the brother(BBaba). WHEN YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR MIND, YOU CHILDREN OF OCEAN OF KNOWLEDGE WILL ALSO BECOME OCEAN OF KNOWLEDGE. For you, it is very easy. Those who are in gruhsath vyavahaar(household- lowkik), it is a little difficult to them. They listen and then go home. The atmosphere there is totally different. Here, it is easy. Baba gives easiest yukti/plan. Consider yourself as soul and remember the Father. Even this also is a brother/soul. Through this drushti, you would go beyond karm bandhan (karmic bondages). Even body is forgotten. Just father only is remembered. If you put effort in this path, you will become pass with honour. Very few only will be in this stage. They only will become World Emperors. There is rosary of 8, is it not. So- effort should be put. Those who are going to get high status will be putting put effort in any way (let anything may come). In this stage, no other matter comes out. Drushti of brother- brother is of love and relation. This drushti/vision gets restored/fixed. Hence Baba says- I tell you very deep matters. To put effort in this is a great effort. Even when you are sitting here, consider yourself as a soul. The soul only listens. You see the soul that is listening.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

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