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21) 100 marks is reserved just to God- and not to human souls- Post No. 128 - viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1167&p=12500&hilit=marks#p12500

22) Most beloved Father gives fruit/response instantly. Father would be with children till the task of establishment is completed:-

AM 21-6-82(1, 2):- (Revised date- full murli is below):- Aaj smruti divas arthaath samarthi divas sab bachchon ne apni2 lagan anusaar bhinn2 roop se yaad kiyaa. Baapdada ke paas chaaron vor ke snehi, sahayogi, shakti swaroop, samparkvaali aatmaa ke sab roop ki yaad vatan tak pahunchi. Baapdada dwara harek bachche ko jaisee yaad vaisaa return usee samay mil jaataa hai. Kayi bachche yogi tu atma ke bajaaye viyogi aatmaayein ban jaate hain jis kaaran milan ke bajaaye judaayi ka anubhav karte hain. YOGI TU ATMA SADAA BAAPDADA KE DIL TAKHTHNASHEEN HOTI. DIL KABHI DUR/DOOR NAHIN HOTI. Viyogi aatmaayein viyog ke dwara Baapdada ko saamney lane ka prayatn karti hain. Vart_maan ko bhool beeti ko yaad karti hai. IS KAARAN BAAAPDADA KAB PRATYAKSH DIKHAAYI DETE, KAB PARDEY KE ANDAR CHIPAA HUVAA DIKHAAYI DETE. LEKIN BAAPDAADAA SADAA BACHCHON KE AAGE PRATYAKSH HAIN. BACHCHON SE CHIP NAHIN SAKTAA. JABKI BAAP HAI HI BACHCHON PRATI. JAB TAK BACHCHON KA STHAAPNAA KA KARTAVY KA PART HAI TAB TAK BAAPDADA BACHCHON KE HAR SANKALP AUR SECOND MAY SAATH2 HAI. Baap ka vaaydaa hai saath chalenge. Kab chalenge? Jab kaary samaapth hoga. TOH PAHLEY HI BAAP KO KYON BHEJ DETE HAIN? BAAP CHALAAA GAYA- YAH KAH AVINAASHI SAMBANDH KO VINAASHI KYON BANAATE HO? SIRF PART PARIVARTAN HUVAA HAI. JAISE AAP LOG BHI SEVA STHAAN CHANGE KARTE HO NA. TOH BRAHMA BAAP NE BHI SEVA STHAAN CHANGE KIYAA HAI. ROOP VAHI, SEVA VAHI HAI. HAZAAR BHUJAAVAALEY BRAHMA KE ROOP KA VARTMAAN SAMAY PART CHAL RAHA HAI. TAB TOH SAKAR SRUSHTI MAY IS ROOP KA GAAYAN AUR YAADGAAR HAI. BHUJAAYEIN BAAP KE BINAA KARTAVY KAR NAHIN SAKTI. BHUJAAYEIN BAAP KO PRATYAKSH KARAA RAHI HAIN. KARAANEVAALAA HAI, TAB TOH KAR RAHE HAIN. JAISE ATMA KE BINAA BHUJAA KUCH NAHI KAR SAKTI, VAISE BAAAPDAA COMBINED SOUL KE BINAA BHUJAAYEN ROOPI BACHCHE KYAA KAR SAKTEY HAIN? HAR KARTAVY MAY ANTH TAK PAHLEY KAARY KA HISAA BRAHMA KA HI TOH HAI. BRAHMA ARTHAATH ADI DEV. ADI DEV ARTHAATH HAR SHUBH KAARY KI AADI KARNEVAALAA. BAAPDADA KE AADI KARNE KE BINAA ARTHAATH AARAMBH KARNE KE BINAA KOYI BHI KAARY SAFAL KAISE HO SAKTAA? HAR KAARY MAY PAHLEY BAAP KA SAHAYOG HAI. ANUBHAV BHI KARTE HO, VARNAN BHI KARTE HO, PHIR BHI KAB2 BHOOL JAATE HO. PREM KE SAAGAR MAY PREM KE LAHARON MAY KYAA BAN JAATE HO? Laharon se khelnaa hai, na ki laharon ke vashibhooth honaa hai. GUNGAAN KARO, LEKIN GHAAYAL NAHIN BANO. BAAP DEKH RAHE HAIN KI BACHCHE MERAA SAATHI HAIN AUR BACHCHE JUDAAYI KAA PARDAA DAAL DEKHTE RAHTE HAIN. PHIR DHOONDHNEY MAY SAMAY GAVAATE HAIN. HAAJIRAA HAJOOR KO BHI CHIPAA LETE HAIN. Agar aankh michouni ka khel achchaa lagtaa hai toh khel samajhkar bhaley khelo lekin swaroop nahin bano. BAHLAANEY KI BAATEIN NAHIN SUNAA RAHE HAIN. AUR HI SEVA KI SPEED KO ATI TEEVR GATI DENE KE LIYE SIRF STHAAN PARIVARTAN KIYAA HAI. Isliye bachchon ko bhi Baap samaan seva ki gati ko ati teevr banaane may busy rahnaa chaahiye. Yah hai sneh ka return. Baap jaante hain bachchon ko Baap se ati sneh hai. LEKIN BAAPKA BACHCHON KE SAATH2 SEVA SE BHI SNEH HAI. BAAP KE SNEH KA PRATYAKSH SWAROOP SEVA SE SNEH HAI. JAISE PAL2 BABA2 KAHTE HO VAISE HAR PAL BAAP AUR SEVA HO. TAB HI SEVA KA KAARY SAMAAPTH HOGAA AUR SAATH CHALENGE. AB BAAPDADA HAREK BACHCHE KO LIGHT MIGHT HOUSE KE ROOP MAY DEKHTE HAIN. MIKE POWERFUL HO GAYE HAIN. LEKIN LIGHT, MIGHT AUR MIKE TEENON HI POWERFUL SAATH2 CHAAHIYE. AWAAZ MAY AANAA SAHAJ LAGTAA HAI NA. AB AISEE POWERFUL STAGE BANAAVO JIS STAGE SE HAR ATMA KO SHAANTHI, SUKH, AUR PAVITRATAA KI TEENON HI LIGHTS APNI MIGHT SE DE SAKO. JAISE SAAAKAARI SRUSHTI MAY JIS RANG KI LIGHT JALAAATE HO TOH CHAARON VOR VAHI VAATAAVARAN HO JAATAA HAI. AGAR HARI LIGHT HOTI HAI TOH CHAARON VOR VAHI PRAKAASH CHAA JAATAA HAI. EK STHAAN PAR HOTE HUYE BHI EK LIGHT VAATAAVARAN KO BADAL DETI HAI. JAISE AAP LOG BHI JAB LAAL LIGHT KARTE HO TO AUTOMATICALLY YAAD KA VAAYUMANDAL BAN JAATAA HAI. AISE JAB STHOOL LIGHT VAAYUMANDAL KO PARIVARTAN KAR LETI HAI TOH AAP LIGHT HOUSE PAVIITRATA KI LIGHT SE VA SUKH KI LIGHT SE VAAYUMANDAL NAHIN BANAA SAKTEY HO? STHOOL LIGHT AANKHON SE DEKHTE. RUHAANI LIGHT ANUBHAV SE JAANENGE. VARTMAAN SAMAY ISEE RUHAANI LIGHT HOUSE DWARA VAAYUMANDAL PARIVARTAN KARNE KI SEVA HAI. SUNAAA AB SEVA KA KYAA ROOP HONA HAI? MIKE BAHUT HAIN, SPEED BHI HAI. LEKIN ATTENTION SWAYAM KI LIGHT AUR MIGHT SWAROOP PAR HO. DONON SEVA SAATH HO. MIKE AUR MIGHT. TAB SAHAJ SAFALATAA MOORTH BAN JAAYENGE. SADAA ATEENDRIY SUKH VA KHUSHI KE JHOOLEY MAY JHOOLTEY RAHO. KHUSH RAHO AUR KHUSHI KA DAAN DETE RAHO. NA DEH ABHIMAAN KI MITTI MAY AAVO, NA DEH ABHIMAANI SAMBANDH MAY AAKAR MITTI SE KHELO. BUDDHI ROOPI PAAV MITTI MAY NAHIN RAKHO. DIL TAKHTHNASHEEN BACHCHE KAB MITTI MAY NAHIN KHELTEY. SADAA GYAAN RATNON SE KHELTE RAHO. Achchaa -72, 72- [yaad, dhaarnaa, seva, God’s acts, pbks]

23) If not in corporeal, 100 years of role of establishment will continue through subtle. - Post No. 92- murli point No. 5 - - viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1167&p=12005&hilit=pooraa#p12005

24) - How does Shivbaba give srimath/suggestions personally ? Post No. 158 - viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1167&p=13468&hilit=pooraa#p13468


25) Baba says- my chariot is fixed, I enter only one. But, if in drama, there is need to bring benefit to someone, I enter in some children as well (like side scenes)

SM 13-4-78(2):- AISEY NAHI BRAHMA BABA KO YAAD KARNE SE VARSAA MILEGAA. THUR BHI NAHIN MILEGAA. ……….. Tum kahaan murli chalaaney may moonjh jaavenge toh bhi Shivbaba pravesh kar aaye murli chalaavenge. Bachchon ko pataa nahin padtaa ki shivbaba aakar madad karte hain. Samajhte hain humney aaj murli achchi chalaayi. Arey- aaj achchi chalaayi, kal kyon nahin chalaati thi? Tumko yah bhi pataa thode hi padti hai shivbaba bolthay hain yaa brahma bolthay hain. Shivbaba kahte hain bachche toh merey Ishwariy owlaad hain. Merey ko yaad karo. Aisey aur koyi kah na sakey. Main hi inmay pravesh kar kah saktaa hun. Main gyaan saagar hun na. Tum gyaani tu aatmaa ban rahe ho. MAIN TOH PRERAK HUN. Humko kiskaa kalyaan karnaa hai toh unmay pravesh kar baith sunaataa hun. Jo Baap se yog rakhte hain toh Baap bhi aakar madad karte hain………Aisey math samjho yah Brahma baba direction dete hain.shivbaba yaad rahnaa hai. -86-. 87 [murli, yaad, entrance, prerana, god’s acts]


26) Father is not a physical doctor, but if in drama, may also give some directions on that :-

SM 26-4-87(73-):- Mera kaam hai shikshaa denaa. Main toh teacher hun. Aisey nahin Baba toh jaante hain, humaari davaayi aape hi bhej denge. Baba kahenge beemaari hai toh doctor ke paas jaavo. HAAN SABSEY ACHCHI DAVAAYI HAI YOG. BAAKI MAIN KOYI DOCTOR HUN KYAA JO DAVAAYI BAITH DOONGAA. HAAN KAB DE BHI SAKTAA HUN DRAMA MAY NOONDH HAI TOH. Baaki main tumhaaree atma ko injection lagaaney aayaa hun. DRAMA MAY HAIN TOH KAB DAVAAYI DE BHI DETE HAIN. Baaki aisey nahin Baba Samarth hai, humaari beemaari ko kyon nahin chudaa saktey hain. Bhagavaan toh jo chaahe so kar saktaa hai. Nahin. Baap toh aate hee hain patiton ko pavan banaaney. Achchaa. -73- [God’s acts, repeat, yaad]


27) Father gives fruit of bhakti even in bhaktimarg:-

SM 21-10-82(2):- Bhakti may jo kuch bhhaavnaa se karte hain uskaa phal kuch na kuch Baap dete hain. Doosrey janm may achchaa bhakt ban jaate hain. -54- [God’s acts, inf]

28) Father also helps children a lot:-

Many times, Baba says- I cannot do anything, all depends on drama. But, baba also says I help children a lot. The main thing- what baba needs is- children SHOULD NOT BEG EVEN FROM GOD. DO NOT EXPECT EVEN FROM GOD. HAVE FAITH THAT BOTH DRAMA, AND SHIVBABA ARE KALYAANAKAARIS(AUSPICIOUS). Baba has also said- There is no need to remind God. Humans may need to remind about their duty. Also- when God gives, it is hundred folds.

SM 25-1-83(1):- Bachchon se saakshaatkaar bhi kiyaa hai jo achchi reeti yaad karte hain Baap unhon_ki rakshaa bhi karte hain. DUSHMAN KO BHAYANKAR ROOP DIKHAAYE BHAGAA DETE HAIN. Tumko jab tak sharir hai tab tak yog may rahnaa hai. Nahin toh sajaayein khaani padengi. -35 [yaad, vision]

= Children have got vision- how Shivbaba helps righteous children. Baba shows a ferocious form to the enemy and makes them run away. .....

29) Baba also says- in Conf. Age God is bound to give all the things- powers and virtues to children. So, use God fully.
Baba also says- I have given you everything as your birth right. Just realize birth (feel that you are child of God), and you will experience it.

30) There is also a murli point which says- If you say My baba from heart, Shivbaba is at your service.
Baba also says- I am your most obedient servant. But, I will not show you krupa (free gift). What I teach you itself is the real krupa. You then do krupa on make yourself by inculcating the study.

31) Baba usually says in sakar murlis- himmatey bachchey madadey khudaa = As the courage of the children, so is the father's help.
There is a very important avyakt murli point on courage- (in approximate words). Most beloved baba says- "See, when a child is asked to cut cake, usually it is parents who cut the cake, but the child has to be ready at least to hold the knife. It is parents who apply force, child need not apply the force. Similarly, you children should show courage at least to that extent. Rest baba will do everything for you. If you do not show even that much courage, how can Baba give you certificate? Worldly people will complain- how can God give property only to you?"

32) Baba also gives example of the kittens which were fully safe even when they had been in the pot which were on fire to bake it. So- Baba has promised us that- even in the worst circumstances children will be safe.

33) Father is also cautious and concerned about the children

SM 19-11-82(3):- BAAP KAHTE HAIN MUJHE KITNI MEHNATH KARNI PADTI HAI, KITNAA ONAA RAHTAA HAI. Kahaan koyi bachchi gundon ke haath may na aa jaave. Duniyaa bahut gandi/gundi hai. CENTRE PAR GUNDEY AA JAATE HAIN. NAAM ROOP MAY FAS PADTEY HAIN. Yagy may anek prakaar ke vighn bhi padtey hain. Maya bhi vighn daalti hai. Phir bahut ghutkaa khaate hain. Phir bhi Baap ko yaad karnaa padey. YUDDH KE MAIDAAN MAY KHADEY HOKAR LADNAA HAI. Darnaa nahin hai. FAARKATI BAHUT DE DETE HAIN. KITNEY VARSH RAH PAALNAA LE PHIR SHAADI KAR KAHAAN KAA KAHAAN CHALEY GAYE. Aashcharyavanti bhaaganti ho jaate hain. PHIR BHI DRAMA KI BHAAVI KAH CHUP HO JAATE HAIN. Service may rahneyvaalon ko khushi jaasthi rahti hai. -95 [warning, god’s acts, baith]


34) Destruction is fixed in drama, but lowkik people consider it to be Godly Act:-

SM 15-1-77(3):- Natural calamaties ko Godly act kahaa jata hai. Shankar dwara vinash. To Godly act huvaa na. Direction dete hain yah sab udaa do. Baap kahte hain main koyi direction detaa nahin hun. Yah to drama may noondh hai. -18-

= People believe natural calamaties as Godly act. (It is said) destruction through Shankar. Then it is (looks like) godly act, is it not? (It then looks as if God or Shankar) gives direction to destroy all these. But, Baba says- I do not give such directions. It is fixed in drama.

35) God is most loved, and most defamed by Bharatvaasis:-

SM 15-2-89(3):- Baap toh hai hee gareeb nivaaz. Daan bhee gareebon ko hee diyaa jaataa hai. BAAP KHUD KAHTE HAIN MAIN BHEE SAADHAARAN TAN MAY AATAA HUN. NA GAREEB, NA SAAHUKAAR. Tum bachche hee Baap ko jaante ho. Baaki saaree duniyaa toh gaalee detee rahtee hai. BAAP KAHTE HAI BHAARATAVAASIYON KO DRAMA MAY PART HAI GAALEE DENE KAA, GAALEE KARNE KAA. JIS BHAARAT KO ITNAA OONCHAA SWARG BANAAYAA UNHONEY HEE BAHUT GLAANEE KEE HAI. Tikkar, bittar may thok diyaa hai. Baap aisaa dharm sthaapan karte hain jo vahaan dukh kaa naam bhee naheen rahegaa. JINKO SUKH DETAA HUN, VAHEE KAANTE BAN MERI GLAANI KARTE, GAALIYAAN DETE HAIN. Devataavon kee bhee glaani karte hain. -62 [Rath, God’s acts, Bharat]

Post No. 197 viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1167&p=15375&hilit=foundation#p15375

35) God adopts/corrects a scripture too- not just children*. So, it is a COMPLETE PROCESS AND FULL TRANSFORMATION.
- Post No. `11 - viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1167&p=4061&hilit=foundation#p4061


* - God adopts/transforms the Iron Aged World too into Golden Age.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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# Post No. 210) Few thoughts about "BrahmTATW, BrahmAAND, and BrahmLOK:-


All are one and the same. Brahm_Lok = Brahmaand = Brahm_Tatw = Paramdham

Tatw = element

There are two worlds- Physical/Corporeal World (PW = CW) and Incorporeal. world (IW) . [Subtle world is only temporary- during Conf. Age].

In CW- there are five elements- earth, fire, air, water and ether (space). The space in the CW/PW is called as aakaash.

In IW - it is just space which is called as - Brahm tatw. [The space in CW gets degraded, polluted, but space in IW does not, it remains always pure]. Hence it is supreme abode. .

1) Murli point says- Aatmaa Paramadham may andey misal rahti hain = In Paramdham, souls reside like egg shaped.

Soul is shown as both point, as well as oval/egg shape.

Since soul is seed, it is given egg/oval shape. Actually it is point.
2) Mostly, there is also a murli point saying- "Aatma andaa misal naheen hai, vah toh bindu hai. = Soul is not egg shaped, it is point"

In lowkik, the both the words "brahm_aand" and "brahm_tatw" are famous. [andaa = egg, andey = eggs -plural]

In lowkik, another name for Brahm-tatw is "NIR_GUNN (No Gunn = No quality) Brahm". Some (mainly saints) believe the PW is "SAGUN (one that has quality) Brahm".
Hence they believe Nirgunn Brahm as always pure, and Sagun Brahm changes its state.

They believe - initially or at some point of time, it would be just sagun brahm (IW) only. They also believe sagun Brahm (PW) is only a small part which got emerged from nirgun brahm (IW).

The right word is BRAHM_TATW or BRAHM_LOK, not BRAHMAAND.
Brahm stands for the highest seat. EG- Like- brahmaanand (highest bliss), brahm muhoorth (highest time)

I do not know from where the name BRAHMAAND came. Mostly since the soul is believed to be egg or thumb shaped, and since souls reside there, that name might had come.

Another reason could be - Since the brahm tatw is said to be the seed(origin, parent*) for the creation of the PW - Since lowkik people believe the PW has come out (emerged) from brahmaand, they might had called brahm-tatw as brahmaand .

* - Egg may mean parent house. Like a chicken comes out of an egg, they may be believing the PW has come out from IW.

Some saints believe Brahm_tatw itself to be Ishwar/God. They meditate only on just on the Pure Space Brahm Tatw. That is why baba calls them as tatw_gyaanis = inclined only to the pure space. Their aim is to become leen/merged with Brahm_Tatw.

"Brahma" is different than "Brahm". Brahma is name of the first person (number one human being), whereas Brahm is the name of just/highest space.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

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