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ShivLing is not Phallus


Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:47 am

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1) Some people believe ShivLing (also known as ShivLingam) represents Phallus of God Shiv/Shankar. A glance on this matter.

2) LING means SYMBOL, not penis. We have three words-
---Pul_ling (name for masculine gender) ,
---Stree_ling (name for feminine gender), and
---Jyotir_ling (name for Shiv_ling).

Pu = Purush = Male
Stree = Stree = Female
Jyoti = Light.

So, the word JYOTHIRLINGAM means symbol of DIVINE LIGHT SHIV.

3) The name JYOTHIRLINGAM is famous for Shivling. There are 12 old and famous Shiv temples called by the names BAARAH (12) JYOTHIRLINGAMs.

4) Still, if we believe ling to be penis, ...

---how can the word jyothirlingam fit? What is connection between light and penis?
--- how can Stree_ling be the right word for female gender? Does a female have penis?

From the word jyothirlingam, it becomes clear that the symbol of God Shiv is nothing but Jyoti (light), very simple, is it not?

5) Some believe - the stool/seat on which ShivLing is seated represents vagina of goddess Parvati who is believed to be wife of Shiva.
But, if the seat represents her vagina, then every Shiv temple should have been called as temple of (both) Shiv and Parvati. Why the temples are called just only Shiv temple?

So, it becomes clear that neither the ling represents penis, nor the seat represents vagina.

6) A speciality in worshipping of Shiv is - during the worship, ABHISHEK (pouring) of coconut water would be done on ShivLing and after the ABHISHEK, it becomes TEERTHA (like prasad, divine ). The devotees would like to collect it.
So, the peetha/seat of ShivLing would have been altered accordingly. This might have been a further cause for the wrong interpretation as vagina.

7) Many saints like Swami Vivekananda have objected the saying ling to be penis.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:25 am

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8) Due to not having right knowledge of incorporeal God/Shiv, the Shivling is interpreted in various ways by many people and still is a matter of debate for worldly people. -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingam

9) Usually, on the Shivling, three lines and a DOT is put. If the ling is phallus, where do these marks stand?
The three lines indicate Shiv is TRI_KAALADARSHI (one who knows three aspects of time), TRI_NETRI(one who has third eye or divine wisdom), TRI_MURTI (creator of the three deities Brahma Vishnu and Shankar) etc, and the DOT indicates that Shiv is just a POINT of light. The bigger form of ling is used for worship purpose only.
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Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:24 am

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10) In some communities like LINGAYAT and VEERASHAIVA, the devotees worship/meditate on ShivLing on bare hand without any base/stool. This is a clear indication that the Shivling has no connection with vagina.

And shape of Shivling in such cases is like hemisphere, not like phallus/prism.
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Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:10 am

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11) There are Shivlings of SPHERICAL and OVAL shapes.
So, actual shape of Shivling is spherical or oval.
----To place the Shivling on a flat stool, devotees might have made it as hemispherical (so that the ling stands firmly on the stool).
-----Later, to make the Shivling to be seen from far (for the visibility of mass of people) the devotees might had increased the height of the ling which then became like a circular prism.

Then, the (mis)conception of phallus might had come gradually.
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Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.

Post Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:47 am

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Video in this link gives some good points -
like ling means symbol, and stands for light. It also gives examples how the word ling got misinterpreted. Even foreigners could have role in this misinterpretarion to defame India culture as per drama plan. https://youtu.be/LtsV5ZFuYzA

Since Indians did not have full knowledge of Shivling and are not rigid like other religions, the room for misinterpretation is high.
Murli Pt:- Gambheerataa se full marks jamaa hota hai. Mamma toh gambheerataa kee devi thi. = The virtue seriousness gives full marks. Mamma was a deity of seriousness.


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